Leon Secatero: Good morning. Long ago, it seems that there were a Spirit People that became aware that the Earth People were coming. So they decided to have a dialogue, the same way, as there was a circle. So all the Spirit People Came and talked about this sacred gift, the awareness, where can we put it in the meantime, and then give it to the newcomers when they come. And so they thought about it through the dialogue one said, "Hey, I know where to put this gift where the Earth people won't find it until it's time". So they said, "Let's put it up, way up on top of the mountain, way where they can't climb". And then one said, "No, huh-uh, I don't think so. Those Earth People, oh they're curious, they're going to find it right away". And they went into circle again, talk and talk. Finally one says, "Hey, why don't we put it way under the ground in the cave where the Earth people don't go?" And then they said, "No, no, no. THey're going to get it because that's where they're like ants, they'll climb everywhere." And then finally, they came back together in the dialogue. And then finally one said, "Hey, let's put this awareness in themselves where they will never find it until it's time." (laughter).

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Phil Duran: ...[t]he Universe is telling us, "Listen to me." Nature is saying, "Listen to me." These are ways in which you can become aware of reality and these are the windows that we can use to build that bridge. And I also se that the animals have a voice, the water has a voice, the trees have a voice and they're saying, "I'm dying." The waters are saying, "I'm not clean anymore", and the trees are saying, "I'm dying." But we are their voice, we are the explicate voice of their implicate sounds. We are responsible for listening to nature telling us these things. So Mother Earth really speaks to us but we're not listening. So, the concept of entanglement--now think of the implications that, that we need to be entangled with each other forever. We need to relate to each other. We need to unite with each other.

There's another example, from physics, the example of--I forgot the name of the phenomenon, but you know Einstein did a lot of different kinds of experiments, some of them were mind experiments. But he dealt, he taught, he worked with plasma, electron plasma. And there's a condition in which electron plasma, this is just a set of electrons in a gas state that, just a few degrees above absolute zero, they all enter into a single state, they behave as a group where before they behaved as individuals. And this is one example of the fact that you cannot break matter apart and expect it to behave in the same way, it doesn't work that way. Electrons work as a unit. And they act as a unit because they are in the same quantum state, they all... this is amazing, I don't know... they all have the same energy level in this gas of electrons.

But you see, earlier we talked about being of one mind--isn't that also the same as being of one state? And so these electrons that you may think have no consciousness are speaking to us. So this unseen world is speaking to theoretical physicists and the theoretical physicists are not understanding the messages. So this is why so few of us--and I don't believe I'm that important, because I'm not--but we need more people who will have that insight to build that bridge, because you see I don't like to build artificial bridges that have a New Age sound --what I'm trying to say is they're not authentic. There has to be real science and there has to be authentic native thought being put together.

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David Abram:... So you may have heard about this king, some years back, who commissioned a map of his dominion, of his lands. He loved this terrain, but really wanted a fine map and he did a contest and chose the finest cartographer in the land, and he said, "I want the best possible map of this whole realm." And the cartographer took this very seriously, had various workmen and workwomen working with him and they surveyed, measured and crafted with such art and os much beauty and wit a lot of the finest pigments, a map--it had quite a large size it was like, you now, six feet by six feet--that eh brought into the palace, and unveiled it before the king who was delighted, except..."Wait, wehre's...well, where's those mountains over there?"

"Oh, your Highness, those aren't... you mean those hills?"

"No, no, that mountain right over there."

"But your Highness, they're not big enough... Look,we've got the Alps over here and over there are the Pyrenees and, but those are not big enough to really get on the map."

He said, "That is my favorite mountain range! I've been gazing at them every day , I need them in the map".

Ok. So the cartographer went back to his workshop, gathered his helpers and they set to work. A months later brought back to the palace a map, but this map was of a very different scale. In fact it filled up much of the room wherein the throne was, but they propped it up as best they could. It was about 25 feet by 25 feet and they said, "Look, your HIghness, and here are those golden mountains, we named them for you."

And he said, "Ah, fantastic. But where's that... the river... come, you guys see that river over there? I don't see it on the map. I need..."

And they said, "Your Highness, that is not a river, that is a creek. ANd it does not have a place on our map because it's not a real river."

"What do you mean it's not a river? That river blesses me each day when I go down to it and take its water and drop it upon my neck, and my eyes, please... that river..."

But they knew and they argued hard, they said, "Your Highness, it's not even a stream. And it runs dry every year, it's a little creek!"

"It's a river," the king said, "I've always thought it's a river, it's my river, it's the river, I need it on the map".

Ok. The cartographers went back to the workshop and they worked and they labored, and they labored, and they came back months later and said, "We've done it, King." And he said, "Bring it in." They said, "We can't bring it in, you've got to come out here." It was the size of the palace itself! And he was able to step onto this map, and it has his river and it had his mountains. Though it didn't have the house where he was born--and they went through this whole thing again! They said, "Well that house is... you were of humble beginnings, you Highness!" "But that house is central to the world! It needs to be..."

The long and the short of it is that they went back to the workshop but this took them a couple of years because this is a pretty small house. When they were done, it wasn't just a couple of years, it was two an da half years or so, maybe much longer, because they finally, finally constructed a map that satisfied the king precisely. It had every nuance within the land in it. It was the size, unfortunately, of the land itself. ANd so to lay out an unraveled map, they had to clear the entire realm and lay out this map over the landscape. But it had every spot, every stone, every stream, every dry streambed, every tree and every dead snag was there. It was 'the map'. And the king and his followers were overjoyed and they settled back in on top of the map and lived there as did everybody else in the kingdom--until the rainy season came and... the clouds gathered overhead and started pouring... and the colors began running a bit on the map, which got a little frayed in some areas where it got overly wet it pulled where there were little slumps in the map.

And those places kind of just tore a little bit, and right through those various tears and thin spots in the map, something was peeking up--little bits of green, grasses, small plants and seedlings. And people were looking at those and going, "What's that? What's that stuff?" ...and more and more were appearing as pieces of the map detached themselves from other pieces and these little bits of green earth and soil, dirty soil, was appearing and smudging the edges of those pieces. And people were saying, "Hmm, what's this stuff?" Seems to me that maybe that's where we are today. The map is fraying and we're beginning to--I hope and pray--discover, discover something that's been hidden by the map itself.

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